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My opinion on the STIHL MS 170 chainsaw with a stock 16" bar

Bobby Morehead • February 11, 2023

My opinion on the STIHL MS 170 chainsaw with a stock 16" bar. The MS 170 is an inexpensive, entry level chainsaw. The first chainsaw i ever purchased was actually an off-brand chainsaw from the local Flea Market, and it set me back a whopping $40 cash. It was extremely heavy, but it definitely got the job done! All the tree guys that I worked around were using STIHL saws and would constantly make jokes and laugh (All in good fun) at my off-brand saw, I want to say it was a Ryobi. I didn't care, I was making money and didn't have the extra money to spend on a STIHL saw. 


  After a few months running the company and using only the one saw that I had, it finally quit on me, requiring me to buy a new saw. By this time, I had already used a few STIHL saws on different jobsites, and I know that it would be worth the money to go ahead and get a good saw. After looking into all the saws STIHL has to offer, and what I needed it for the most, I chose the MS250. It has the power to cut through just about everything I threw at it, its long lasting and it wasn't too heavy. At the same time, the MS170 was on sale for $160 brand new. Today's prices, the MS170 is between $200-$210 locally. Because of the sale, I decided to go ahead and pick one up and try it out. 


  So here is what I found while using the MS170. The first big difference between the rest of the saws, aside from the price difference, was how light it is. Compared to all the other saws we use, the MS170 is a saw that I can handle carrying around all day long at work and it wouldn't phase me at all. For those with carver's elbow (tennis elbow) this is a great choice for a light weight saw. While the MS170 doesn't hold up compared to the larger saws, this saw is perfect for limbing trees and cutting down smaller trees, preferably trees 8" diameter or less. Once all the limbs are cut off the tree, I definitely recommend using a 250 or larger saw for cutting up the logs. 


  The MS170 is my go-to saw when I hire new employees. They are inexpensive, durable and light, which makes them perfect for new employees. My employees get the opportunity to show me that they are able to handle a chainsaw and that they are able to clean and maintain it as well. If they can't, well... It was only a $160 chainsaw anyway. 


  From my experience, the MS170 lifespan averages about 1 year when being used daily for hours each day. I'm sure many last longer and shorter for others, but this is how long mine last. At the end of their lifecycle, we set them aside to use them for parts for the newer 170's. Always having spare parts is a pretty big deal in the chainsaw game because it saves you a ton of money and eliminates a lot of down time for repairs when you can repair them on site or the same day once you return to the shop. That said, I also have a 170 that I use specifically for Chainsaw Carving. It only gets used occasionally, it was purchased about 2 years ago and it is still running strong due to not being used as often. If your plan is to have a saw in the garage that you can bust out whenever the need for a chainsaw comes up, the MS170 is a great option for homeowners that aren't expecting to take on larger trees. 


  Upgrades. When most people purchase a chainsaw, they are buying it as it is, and don't realize that you can upgrade the saw. The MS170 is a great example of this. STIHL has many reasons for their pricing, and when it comes to the 170, they do what they can to make it as cheap as possible for the average homeowner. One example of this is the "Felling Dogs". Felling Dogs are at the base of the chainsaw bar and they are the spikes that grip into the tree or log to assist with the cutting grip and stability. typically they are metal spikes, but on the MS170 the felling dogs are plastic. With rounded tips. #Useless. For only a few dollars you can buy a replacement set of dogs that are metal and actually serve a purpose. There are many additional upgrades available for this saw, such as changing out bars, sprockets and more, but that's a blog post for another day.


  Here is a tip that not many people know about the MS170, it is so unknown that when I went to my local saw shop that has been there for 20 years, and explained what i was wanting, they looked at me as if I was crazy for thinking that it would work. All of the STIHL saws have a chain tension screw, located on the face of the saw, easily accessed while changing the chain out. Not the MS170. On the 170 the tension screw is located on the opposite side of the bar right next to the felling dogs. It is accesible, but also more time consuming and a difficult angle to get a good turn of the screw while also checking the chain tension all at the same time. When all of your other saws have the screw on the face plate, it makes it a real annoyance to chane the chain on the 170. Solution? Simple. Go to the local saw shop, or Amazon, and purchase a Chain Tension Screw for the MS250, and install it on your MS170. It'll cost you about $5 and take you all of 30 seconds to install, and now your 170 tension screw is in the exact same place as every other saw you run. It's a very quick, simple and easy tip that is more than worth the time and money. The guys at the saw shop, looked absolutely amazed and couldnt believe how easy it was. Since they had never heard of it and thhought i was crazy, I went ahead and installed it right in front of the in the middle of the store. It was a pretty cool experience, but I cant take credit for the discovery, I found the information on google, but I can definitely take credit for help you out if you hadn't heard that tip before.


  All in all, the MS170 has been a great saw for the purposes listed above. I loved the 170 and I will continue buying them going forward. Highly recommended for homeowner use, people who are new to running a chainsaw, new employees so they don't destroy your good saws and for cutting limbs and trees with a diameter of less than 8". 


  If you have any questions regarding the MS170, or any other STIHL brand saw, please feel free to message me anytime. I hope this post was helpful!


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